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TED Fellow Nighat Dad studies online harassment, especially as it relates to patriarchal cultures like the one in her small village in Pakistan. She tells the story of how she set up Pakistan's first cyber harassment helpline, offering support to women who face serious threats online. "Safe access to the internet is access to knowledge, and knowledge is freedom," she says. "When I fight for a woman's digital rights, I am fighting for equality."

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72 Comments on How Pakistani women are taking the internet back | Nighat Dad

  1. They never had it in the first place

    • Who never had it??? Are you high or something??

    • E.o.T “It” is the control part. Aren’t we striving for a neutral internet, for them to have access to it? It would’ve been okay if they were gaining back control of their life

    • Achirag Chirag // 8th June 2018 at 4:10 am // Reply

      Chaudhary Zohaib didn’t know you were a woman. Thanks for confirming

  2. Carter logication // 7th June 2018 at 11:41 pm // Reply

    Wow this is a powerful message and great delivery

  3. I’m adding this to my cringe compilation.

  4. MOIZ MUGHAL // 7th June 2018 at 11:43 pm // Reply

    amazing as a man of integrity we should promote women in every field of development

    • Ally of Darkness Sameer // 8th June 2018 at 3:50 am // Reply

      Trailers ‘N’ gameplay Do you know what would be the answer to this question
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    • another one bites the dust

    • MajkaSrajka // 8th June 2018 at 12:52 pm // Reply

      >man of integrity
      >sexism
      Pick one

    • MOIZ MUGHAL intelligent cooperation instead of primitive competition. Everyone is accountable for working hard to the best of their ability, not based on some measure of comparison between men and women.

    • MOIZ MUGHAL Why do we have to promote women in evrything? Why can’t we promote everyone? (ie men and women) Why mist men be excluded.

  5. Saleem MG - 8 Ball Pool // 7th June 2018 at 11:43 pm // Reply

    PAKISTAN in the title *instant click*

  6. Captain Slow // 7th June 2018 at 11:48 pm // Reply

    Jezus christ Ted Ed, I used to really like your videos and lectures but what have you become? The only content I see you guys posting is sjw bullshit nowadays. And quite frankly it’s not even entertaining just plain boring.

    PLZ invite interesting people that actually teach you something

    • Captain Slow // 8th June 2018 at 12:12 am // Reply

      kizanko I’m not targeting this video specifically, if this video would have been posted on Ted Ed a few years ago when they actually made good content this would have been interesting. Ted Ed however kills the message of this woman because it is drowned in other videos of feminists complaining about life.

      My point is they only make sjw content nowadays. They have become bland and uninteresting. That doesn’t mean this woman isn’t correct.

    • Okay I understand that, hopefully one day the general public will prioritize actual oppression over nonsense attention. It will take some time, luckily there is a decline in the heavy sjw trend so give it some time. 🙂

    • Mortalcoilerino Kripperino // 8th June 2018 at 12:59 am // Reply

      I guess she gave us some info on pakistanian culture, i’ve found it interesting. It helps understanding and enjoying these types of videos if you are capable of empathizing with other people.

    • Captain Slow Fucking nailed it dude

    • I haven’t watched a video of theirs in months as I assume it’s all SJW bullshit.

  7. I’m usually against talks heavily focused on the female agenda but if there’s one part of the world where women really go through oppression and struggle it’s Pakistan. To all those who are disliking this video because of your personal bias formed by 3rd wave feminism in the west, disassociate those biases from this video and you may find something worth watching (plus, it’s so short). Otherwise, just ignore my comment or whatever.

    • James Bond one of. They’ve got a long to do list and I’m sure they’re tackling the major issues but it doesn’t mean they can ignore stuff like their ability to connect with sympathisers outside their nation.

    • Dimetropteryx Genuinely wasn’t aware, thanks for the info

    • Well said

    • Study with ANS But why does everything have to be cast in terms of gender. Why can’t we just get internet acces for everyone? I’m sure there are plenty of males with no internet access in Pakistan. Hardly seems like equality if they only uplift girls.

    • Naresh Kuppuswamy But online harassment should not be viewed as a gender issue. Men are harassed online too. To paint this as a female issue is to trivialise harassment of men online. Equality does not mean only adressing female issues.

  8. This is an international problem, not a pakistani problem.

    • You are right // 8th June 2018 at 4:13 am // Reply

      It manifests in real life in Pakistan..There are so many examples don’t try to save Pakistan’s face by denying reality.

    • MajkaSrajka // 8th June 2018 at 12:53 pm // Reply

      This is wamen problem. People being mean online – or at least according to title and description.

  9. Taking the internet back? They never had it to begin with.

    • Mixmax Viral // 8th June 2018 at 1:27 am // Reply

      Stop hating. Low lives.

    • Ally of Darkness Sameer // 8th June 2018 at 3:44 am // Reply

      Kapil Deshmukh India And Pakistan Appear to have quite Similarities between them I guess.
      Except of the Population Of course

    • Achirag Chirag // 8th June 2018 at 4:16 am // Reply

      Ally of Darkness Sameer trust me. They are nothing alike.

    • Study with ANS // 8th June 2018 at 4:16 am // Reply

      Ally of Darkness Sameer Totally right.

    • Dragon Dimosthenis // 8th June 2018 at 2:51 pm // Reply

      It’s obvious she is antifeminist and what she means is that Pakistani women shouldn’t use the Internet as they stop advancement in it while Indian men (through the advanced technics of bobs and vegana) try to move it forward

  10. My dream is learn English
    Because I don’t understand what she says

    • Study with ANS // 8th June 2018 at 4:22 am // Reply

      sheri zarshar I support you.

    • Study with ANS // 8th June 2018 at 4:23 am // Reply

      Also people the internet is here to get information not to fight about each other’s countries.

    • sheri zarshar // 8th June 2018 at 7:16 am // Reply

      I am from russia and we russian people love to visit pakistan.But india is full of scammers.Everyone is selfish and greedy in india
      Our country is also making C pec with pakistan to start trading through gwadar Karachi in arbian sea.we did not collaborate with india to make this road because of your bad behaviour.

    • Calm down guys both countries are relatively bad. I’d say india is better (I’m of pakistani decent) Pakistan has probably gotten worse over time, but india at least has some improvement, and relevancy on the global scale.

    • M Zhillan Ghiffari // 8th June 2018 at 3:25 pm // Reply

      me too, but you good than me

  11. instant dislike

  12. TED stands for Technology, Entertainment, and Design. WTH is this? Just because there is “Internet” in the title doesn’t mean it’s a tech talk. Is TED now run solely by LGBT feminist social justice lefties?

    • Nigrescence // 8th June 2018 at 2:15 am // Reply

      “Is TED now run solely by LGBT feminist social justice lefties?”
      Yes.

    • Hamza Ansari // 8th June 2018 at 5:34 am // Reply

      You do realize that the number 1 watched TED video (on YT at-least) is of a comedian replying to spam emails, with really not too much to learn from it.

      Relax dude, there’s a whole sort of videos TED does, and if this isn’t to your liking, go back and watch the others or wait until the next one.

    • TED crap has nothing to do with LGB people. “Transgenders” maybe, but not LGBs.

    • Dack Hacksaw // 8th June 2018 at 6:10 am // Reply

      I think they take money from George Soros and Bilderberg to push the SJW narrative.

    • Reinis Miks // 8th June 2018 at 6:50 am // Reply

      Leon Duan dude, pakistan is shithole for females. It is one of the countries were feminism is actually needed.

  13. iliveasnatalie // 8th June 2018 at 1:10 am // Reply

    Well, “taking the internet back” would imply you once had control of it. That’s the problem with society and the world today; we no longer want to be HONEST. I would have much respected the speaker if she discussed how Parkistani women are “starting to take control of their lives and the internet. Although a slow progress, but there is some progress” – rather than presenting unicorns and glitter. So disappointed with TED Talks lately.

    • Jonathan Hall Firstly, according to the science of genetics, it’s not marriage among cousins that leads to abnormalities in children, but rather *successive* marriages among cousins over *several generations*. Islam encourages marriages with non-relatives, as can be seen in the example of the marriages of the Last Prophet Muhammad.

      Secondly, the Holy Quran restricts killing of a human being unless it’s done in response to murder or mischief comparable to murder (e.g when a person does not commit murder with his own hands but is directly complicit in it, paying or inciting someone to commit murder, severely beating someone and leaving them to die, torture or rape that leads to death or suicide, etc). Other than that, killing even one person is likened to killing all of humanity in the Holy Quran.

      Lastly, Sharia law can be instituted only by Allah Almighty Himself or His Prophets who receive direct revelation from Him (and they prove their Prophethood through miracles. Also note that not all prophets have been granted political authority by Allah Almighty). In the absence of the Prophets, the rest of us are just doing our best to understand the Holy Quran, and encourage scholarly research and dialogue. So none of us (not an individual, not a group, not even a majority group) can enforce their own interpretation or understanding of the Holy Quran upon other people. The diversity among religions as well as the diversity of beliefs *within* the Muslim community must be respected. There is no compulsion in religion; there is clear evidence in the Holy Quran that we are to *fear only Allah Almighty (verse 2: 41)* and we cannot set up partners with Allah Almighty (verse 4: 116) and therefore we cannot require others to fear *us* . So governance cannot be based on one group’s specific, agreed upon, interpretation of one specific religion. Sharia law without a Prophet opens up the possibility for religious tyranny and shirk (the biggest sin) by giving political power to a specific religious group.

    • Ktoto Tamskij // 8th June 2018 at 7:16 pm // Reply

      how old was Muhamed’s wife? 9?
      great religion.

    • Purple Nazli // 8th June 2018 at 7:35 pm // Reply

      Jonathan Hall As if other religions don’t have fucked up things written in them. First of all, you are quoting things wrongly and out of context, secondly, Christianity approves of throwing rocks at rape victims because “they didn’t yell hard enough” when they got taken. You shouldn’t just focus on islam’s bad side, cause I’m not gonna deny it, there is a bad side. The thing is, all religious books should be interpreted and not taken literally. Honor killings don’t happen in all islamic countries. That’s like saying because there has been a good amount of cases where priests were child molesters/rapists, that means all of christianity consists of child molesters/rapists.
      The reason I’m taking christianity as an example is because I go to a Christian school and understand this religion best beside islam.

    • Purple Nazli // 8th June 2018 at 7:37 pm // Reply

      Ktoto Tamskij he married a young girl to be allowed to take her with him, as he wouldn’t be allowed to do so if he wasn’t married to her. From the moment he was married to her, she became his student in islam and he learned her everything about the new religion. He hadn’t laid a single finger on her until she was well over 18 years old.

    • Ktoto Tamskij No one knows Sister Aisha’s age with certainty. Scholars disagree on the authenticity of the Hadith narration that claims she was 9 at the time of marriage. Attempts at actually calculating her age rather than relying on a Hadith narration have estimated her age to be in her late teens. It’s also possible that at that time, Arabs referred to a virgin woman’s age at the time of her first marriage, especially if she was of an age that was culturally considered to be the “prime” of a woman (e.g. “sweet 16” in today’s culture), in an indirect way out of respect or discretion. So when a woman’s age at marriage was said to be 9, it meant 19 because that was the normal age of marriage (late teens). So if she was actually 9, then that would require further clarification by saying that she was married at the *actual* age of 9, as a *child* . But such clarification is not present in the Hadith about Sister Aisha’s age. It’s like how when we speak of large financial amounts e.g. how much a house or a car cost, then out of discretion, we would say 15 or 25 which would be interpreted as 15 000 or 25 000 in the context of the price of a car. So the context is important – in the context of a woman’s age at marriage, 9 would mean 19. Later on, as patriarchal cultures became obssesed with virginity, they started insisting that girls should be married as soon as they menstruated, and they tried to use Sister Aisha’s age as the “ideal” age to justify such abuse of girls.

      There are several other reasons for this Hadith to be challenged:

      1- according to the Holy Quran, verse 78:33, Allah Almighty will pair us with spouses of *equal* age in Paradise where everyone will follow true Islam without any confusion. According to verse 56:37 in Paradise, mates will be “loving and equal in age.” Since the Holy Prophet married at 25 and the ideal age for marriage is equal age, then it can be argued that the ideal age for marriage among both men and women is 25.

      2- A child cannot give full consent in marriage, and when children go through puberty, their bodies change and they experience new emotions. They need time to develop a sense of who they are and how to practice self-restraint in emotional and sexual matters (rather than instant gratification), before they can be in a position to consent to marriage. The worst thing you can do to someone who is in the midst of experiencing major changes to their body and mind is to create another major change in their life and marry them.

      3- Menstruation is not a reliable, objective sign of adulthood, and it’s not even a requirement for marriage as not all adult women menstruate. Verse 65: 4 refers to adult women (i.e. using the word “nisa” , vs. children/ “itfal” as in verses 22: 5, 24: 31, 24: 59, 40: 67) and includes those adult women who have not menstruated (I.e. for medical reasons such as amenorrhea). Adult men and women who are unable to have children are still allowed to get married. A legal age for marriage must be set based on objective data at the age where a woman has not only started menstruating but has been doing so for a while and has fully developed breasts and pelvic (which continue to develop several years after the onset of menstruation), and also a fully developed mind that is educated enough to be able to give informed consent.

  14. OneMinuteFixed // 8th June 2018 at 1:21 am // Reply

    5 minutes of I can’t even

  15. TheActualCanadian // 8th June 2018 at 1:23 am // Reply

    TED talks…

    99% SJW, Feminist bs
    1% actually intelligent conversation

    • Dack Hacksaw // 8th June 2018 at 6:11 am // Reply

      You know that.

    • Daniel Bernard // 8th June 2018 at 7:24 am // Reply

      Well … i learned that replying to the constant stream of spam-mails can indeed be fun … which is the opposite what spam in my experience is normally…

      In this vid i learned: “….mememe woman … issues …. mememe harrasment”

    • Erik Bakker // 8th June 2018 at 8:36 am // Reply

      Well, to be fair, the E in TED does stand for entertainment, so that James Veitch video is perfectly fine. Also, ‘go back and watch the others or wait until the next one’ is easier said than done, since almost all the content nowadays is sjw stuff, biased partially unfounded bs.

    • hassel buske // 8th June 2018 at 9:31 am // Reply

      1%? You’re being too generous.

    • unsalted667 // 8th June 2018 at 10:13 am // Reply

      Suggesting that it’s 1% is being extremely generous.

  16. Pillow Strength // 8th June 2018 at 4:18 am // Reply

    Wow! Inspiring!

  17. Should not have read the comments

    • depressing isnt it?

    • KrazyKain KrazyKain Yeah, some people don’t seem to understand the situation of women in Pakistan. I can smell the ignorance!

    • Dragon Dimosthenis // 8th June 2018 at 2:56 pm // Reply

      Noora you understand that to fix this is you will go to war with the state or there will be a civil war against Muslims

    • it’s not just that, it’s this general mentality that simply pointing out “hey, you know how women in some parts of the world (to say nothing of women in general) don’t have it easy?” just summons ridiculous amounts of vitriol from so many people.
      Since when was wanting people to have a decent life a political stance and not just human decency?

  18. a - muse - me // 8th June 2018 at 9:45 am // Reply

    “Pa kis thaawn”

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