How American and Chinese values shaped the coronavirus response | Huang Hung

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To combat COVID-19, countries have enforced city-wide shutdowns, stay-at-home orders and mask mandates — but the reaction (and adherence) to these rules has differed markedly in the East and West. In conversation with TED's head of curation Helen Walters, writer and publisher Huang Hung sheds light on how Chinese and American cultural values shaped their responses to the outbreak — and provides perspective on why everyone needs to come together to end the pandemic. (Recorded April 16, 2020)

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42 Comments on How American and Chinese values shaped the coronavirus response | Huang Hung

  1. Yeah or you could be like Taiwan, purely democratic, a collective society, no censorship, people sacrifice their wellbeing for their country (like China), and they succeeded in fighting the coronavirus where China failed. Why don’t you talk with a Taiwanese person who can give you a culturally Chinese perspective on how to ACTUALLY defeat the virus under a DEMOCRACY, instead of trying to justify authoritarianism and push it on the West.

    • ​@Jasmine S Poverty =/= culture
      Can you not reason history, or do you really think democracies can only emerge from one culture and that all others have to be lead by big brother?

    • Hampus Lundström this video is not about poverty. In fact, China is a leading world power and don’t act like poverty doesn’t exist in countries that have democracies. So I don’t understand your point

    • This kind of mindset is wrong, you can’t expect every culture have to follow western’s system, yes Taiwan did well during the pandemic, but it has nothing to do with its political system, you can’t put every success to its political system, in the other hand, Taiwan has developed way much slower since it started general election, there are so many contraries (Iraq, lots South America etc) actually went backwards since they started the election. Second, what is the really democratic??? Just base on votes? Look at what America doing right now, extremely divided society, incompetent leader etc…every system has its both side, the most important part is not whether or not people can vote, it is how well the governor is, how much the governor care about their people and their country, how well the governor can improve the living environment to their people ( infrastructure, wealth, health etc) lastly, China didn’t fail fighting coronavirus, you are watching TED which means at least you had basic education, which means you know unless you see yourself or really go to the place, otherwise you can’t judge base on one side bias, non-ethics media/press report.

    • @Winzot Huang Oh wow haven’t really thought of that tbh until you said it. But to be fair, I think the Asian countries reacted very well and preemptively because they’re very close to the outbreak so they couldn’t just relax and do nothing. The West on the other hand really didn’t seem to care that much and were way too lax about it, mostly because of how far away it all seemed. So I think most of that really is related to the distance from the outbreak. (and yeah the first country always has it harder, since there’s no real prep for it)

  2. How about how Hong Kong and Taiwan and how they responded? Why is that not discussed??Anyhow this lady is ignorant and how ai can do evil with your data.

  3. The idea of government having such free access to your information & such control over you is horrific to a democratic system precisely because the system gives allowances for people diametrically opposed to your entire ideology to hold political power.
    Implementing huge swathes of social control as a tool of political consolidation wouldn’t work because even if your side is in power, you’re potentially making the rod for your own back if you lose next election cycle.

    • and yet people still assault Chinese people – even those born in the West – as if they support what the CCP does!

  4. What kind of friend goes to a dinner at someone’s house while having a flu?? And the other guest was flying to Australia on the following day… well, 1:22 into the the video and I am already pissed off by her moronic judgement having a sick guest and thinking it’s ok.

    • you probably didn’t get the point. that’s why you are pissed off. the point was they didn’t know anything yet at that point. heck they din’t even know what Corona virus was until the lockdown! you just need to swallow your pride and work with everybody towards a common goal. which is the safety of humanity.

  5. One thing is for certain: if she sent this video of herself as an audition tape for Harvard, she’d get in in the 1st round.

    • @Flx Harvard Admissions not only values exemplary grades, but it values diversity. Some of Harvard Admissions’ favorite constructs of “diversity” would include, among other things, China tech, China culture, China mores. At some point there must become a saturation point: “Alright. Enough. Of That. Let’s Move On (to some other construct for diversity.)” But as of now Harvard is far from said saturation point. (do I seem slightly ‘high’ in my writing here? just slight weed intake but it def changes my sense of things. Hope this doesn’t SUCK.)

  6. I think the solution is something closer to John Nash’s idea from A Beautiful Mind. The best outcomes are achieved when we simultaneously think about the individual and the collective. It’s not a middle ground…It’s saying that it is in the individual’s best interests to think of the everyone, and it is in everyone’s best interest to think about the individual. We value both. We need to create policies and a culture of good will. The best solutions come from taking valid concerns of all sides into account, and coming to consensus. When we pick teams, we’re missing it. We need to see the diversity and use the diversity of ideas and mindsets to our collective advantage. We solve problems better together.

    I’m Asian (Filipino) American. I grew up being taught by people raised in an extremely collectivist culture that has high respect for authority figures that America is the land of opportunity. That’s why my grandparents and almost all of their brothers and sisters moved from the Philippines to California and upstate NY. I have seen that we can learn from both sides.

    Ignore which team you’re on for a second, and try to evolve beyond the tribalism. I want to live Gene Roddenberry’s vision. Tribalism won’t get us there.

    • Sasha Townsend – Tulsa what are some of examples of known policies? It’s unlikely any nation will craft policies with the collective world in mind. The whole world is not any single countries constituents. And there is a lot of mistrust, how can we craft policy that considers China when HK is happening? The EU experiment shows significant strain as well.

  7. Guess I got moved at some point from an alternate dimension. Let me introduce this word to this speaker: „obedient“.

    • obedient has a different nuance than 乖 (‘guai’) obedient seems more like brainless people following commands, but the Chinese word is points more towards good behaviour. A kid that spontaneously makes tea for the guests will be called 乖 and also kids (yeh it’s mainly used for kids) that listen well to their parents are 乖. It’s quite broad that’s why she said there isn’t really a word in any other (most other, since I assume there probably is at least 1) language like it.

    • Slavery is definitely not sustainable though, the best system is where everyone is or can be helped with being mentally and physically healthy. So it’s best to make everyone get a real happy life, this makes for better efficiency as well

    • whichever system that is, is probably an impossibility for humans to practice though, so it’s just random thoughts

    • And yes as Chinese I am definitely proud of our technology, like WeChat pay. Given China has the largest population in the world yes sometimes the government has to do something, cuz people were dying. Yes CCP has a lot of problems no government is perfect, but that doesn’t mean that individual freedom is an abstract concept and its meaningless okay????? Dude I really doubt if you are born with a brain.

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