Joe is joined by David Helfrich to discuss a personal experience that brings into question the role of personal responsibility in our society, and what that might look like. if we are to operate without authoritarian rule, how do we have to be or act as individuals to truly have a harmonious society?
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Personal responsibility is not being a shill for the CCP.
Why would a CCP shill call out the Chinese gov’t as being problematic and authoritarian?
@Collective Evolution Replay your video and listen to how it replicates the collective idelogical mentality practiced during CCP criticism sessions.
Personal responsibility is self explanatory. Your safety is your responsibility. Your decisions are your responsibility. Making you feel safe is not my responsibility.
So if u knew u had COVID, would you go around elderly ppl while symptomatic? That’s essentially the reflection point here..
@Collective Evolution No, thats not what the reflection point here is. Maybe read your viewer’s comments to get a sense of what people are getting from this interview. As far as your question, nothing has changed from 2 years ago in the way people have acted, uncontroversially, when they had any virus. If you are afraid that the people you might be around may be sick, it is your responsibility to take precautions. Stay home if you want or take a prophylaxis. It is not my responsibility to force anyone to do or act in a way I want and neither is this responsibility yours.
Based on this comment, did you watch the full video? This is the conclusion of the video. Im actually not sure, based on certain comments, that people actually watched the video. If feels that those who did can clearly see the point of the discussion and what it offers as some conclusion.
@Collective Evolution Regardless of what your intention of the video was, it came across differently. Maybe take that into consideration and modify how you present information in the future instead of trying to force people interpret it YOUR way and not their own. Yes, I watched the entire video, as I am sure everyone else did. Maybe the problem is not with OUR inability to comprehend the content. Might be worth considering.
You’re using extreme examples of people who don’t want to take an non FDA approved experimental vaccine for a virus that has a 97% – 99.7% survival rate. Even the inventer of the mRNA technology has reservations.
Same guidelines as the flu: if you’re sick, stay home! We already have guidelines and workplaces already have guidelines for illness management.
@Aimee Sayan indeed. And so the question becomes does governmwnt think we are incapable of making these choices? And why do some not make these choices? How many don’t?
Contagion theory is the real conspiracy. Hopefully in 40 years we can live freely without the narrative that at any point being with other humans is “dangerous”. If anything we heal eachother. Including when we exchange information subliminally with eachother’s bodies which may cause symptoms (not necessarily a bad thing but what can strengthen our bodies for better response in the future. To stress and toxins). Dr Andrew Kaufman explains this well.
This guest is talking about minimizing shameful division, yet his message affirms our not taking responsibility for society by not taking the jab. His message contradicts this subject of sovereignty. Listen to your own intuition…..
Agreed im 3 mins in and see clearly where this is going. Im sensing CE may now be controlled opposition ….
Get back to this guest in a couple years…if he’s still above ground..
What evidence makes u think the vaccinated will die? It’s an OK thiught to have.. but the question is where does this come from?
@Collective Evolution how can anyone provide you with evidence when you do not allow any links in the comments??
We can’t ‘moderate’ links out of comments. If YT doesn’t allow links in comments.. thats on YT, but I thought links could be posted..
@Collective Evolution the information is out there…in the US…VAERS will give you the “official ” death/injury toll thus far…it is estimated only 1% are reporting to VAERS so the total carnage from the GMO jab is a helluva lot higher..
@Collective Evolution lol YT? REALLY??? The ones that banned scores of channels for suggesting the bug was man made in a Wuhan lab sponsored by Fauchi and his sponsoring Ghouls ?? That YT?? The one that Facebook censored also and is now finally allowing the discussion over a year later???
Vivisection is not science it is violence. Stop pretending human animals are the only species on Earth.
Spike proteins are concentrate in women in their ovaries.
What is this channel becoming? This guy works for you?? Maybe it is time to un-sub since you are turning sideways from your original mission.
@Collective Evolution when i read the comments and then I come back to the page 10 minutes later and se that certain comments are gone, I assume they have been deleted.
@Collective Evolution I have posted links several times already. I will try again now.
First case of postmortem study in a patient vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971221003647 . I will do the next link in a separate comment if this one stays up
@Collective Evolution Second link to Japanese study showing where the spike proteins settle in the body within 48 hours of getting the vaccine: https://byrambridle.com/docs/bio-dist-eng.pdf
Original in Japanese: https://www.docdroid.net/xq0Z8B0/pfizer-report-japanese-government-pdf
@Dybbuk d’Epstein All of this stuff we have covered and published already. Days ago. Which is again why I’m confused. This isn’t a story about are vaccines good or bad.. its a story about what do you do if we ware sick? How does community operate? The science has been covered here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk7vvqoRCFc and here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahh-sTgqwvk
But there is a HUGE problem in our communities right now: people jumping to rash conclusions while we are still learning what’s going on. And people dividing each other by harsh judgment .. this doesn’t help. We’re trying to provide a solution. If coming out and being balanced triggers people into anger, it reflects quite the polarized state of our world.
@Collective Evolution You covered all this and are still asking other commenters questions as to what proof there is that the vaccines are dangerous? Communities need to operate how they always did. take care of yourself and mind your own business regarding what everyone else is doing… You know….. the same as we have been doing for thousands of years. If you want a vaccine, get one. If you don’t, then don’t. Be responsible for yourself and don’t impose your will on anyone else. Seems simple enough to me.
This was a great conversation. Thank you to both of you for this. I gotta say I’m a bit surprised at some of the comments here, thought peeps would be more grounded. But then again that’s what you are trying to do.. have balanced discussion.
Agreed. The comments here are mind blowing.
A truly great discussion as usual. Compassion is always an important reminder.
Thanks! The key right now is balance and connection. We hope this helped provide a different perspective 🙂
@Collective Evolution It would be nice to get to a place in the near future where those that want the V have gotten it, and those that don’t want it can feel free to move about their daily lives. But yes, traveling right now knowing you are carrying the C seems rather irresponsible, especially to indigenous or remote communities. Or even socializing for that matter. Humanity hasn’t quite made it to immortality yet, so yes a balanced approach at present is probably best. Thank you for all of your bravery in expressing the spectrum of truths, and for doing so in such an enlightened way.
The injections do not protect. But we are told to blame the ones that are still clean.
There is also confusion with flu and such due to bad tests.
The good news is that there is extremely good anti-viral medicine.
But the anti-viral medicines are being suppressed. Try posting information about Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine. Watch it get taken down. At least last year it did.
@Jen Dickson Yes. Your reply did not even get removed yet. The censorship is a crime.
Almost 17 minutes of discussion where nothing substantial was said. It seems as if you guys are walking on eggshells, avoiding honest conversation as much as possible. I clicked on the video because I thought I might get a fresh point of view on the insanity that’s surrounding us, but I already heard all these arguments millions of times during Covid.
Families are pulling apart, people who used to love their neighbors – now despise them, nobody trusts the news anymore and every piece of content presented by social media is suspicious and might be used to divide us even further. But how does sitting on the fence about everything will bring a solution?
If even you guys can’t have an open conversation about these subjects – I don’t see how we ever pull out of this.
After reading comments and watching video again, he states many things of “bypassing health guidelines”, etc. Enough people are staying informed of sensored studies, altered numbers, and top officials funding possible bio weapon research. The guest seems fearful or uninformed of professionals, studies, and science to the effect of possible foul play within health organizations. Again, we are all acting on our own level of information and perceptions. Those of us that choose not to get the experimental jab are taking our own sovereignty. We trust our bodies, alternative therapies, and intuition and should not be labeled as those who do not care about society or the elderly. I am almost 60 and trust my immune system, decisions, and the survival of the unaltered miraculous human body.
Yes, the vaccine discussion is pulling communities apart. Wait, what were we talking about? There are always two sides but where I live nobody is being shamed for getting a vaccine, just the other way around. *generalization*