My guest in this episode of The Doctor’s Farmacy is David Heber MD, PhD. Dr. Heber is the founding director of the UCLA Center for Human Nutrition, a professor of medicine and public health, and the founding chief of the division of clinical nutrition in the department of medicine. Dr. Heber also directs the National Cancer Institute-funded clinical nutrition research unit and the National Institute of Health’s nutrition and obesity training grants at UCLA.
As if that wasn’t enough, Dr. Heber has published hundreds of articles and written 25 book chapters and two professional textbooks. Throughout his distinguished career, Dr. Heber has done primary research in the fields of obesity treatment and prevention, the role of nutrition, and phytochemicals. He’s an extraordinary physician and an inspiration to me.
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Dr. Heber needs to update his education by learning of the ketogenic diet.
Dr. Heber says it is not an extremely low calorie diet, because he gives very large men 1120 calories a day. This is laughable. Ask the men on the diet if they were starving. Certainly not sustainable. And he is still counting calories. I bet Dr. Hyman was biting his tongue to keep from sharing the ketogenic diet, low carb and high fat.
Unfortunately he talks soooo fast it’s hard to get half the information he’s conveying! Other than that, he’s definitely a wealth of information.
You can turn down the speed of the video.
The Tech thank you!! Thought audible was only ap I could do that in. Yay!!!
Of course 🙂 Enjoy!
Dr. Heber knows so much, I think he’s excited to share it all!
Why should I listen to a fat doctor’s advice on plant protein? Ridiculous.
He’s a supporter of Herbalife. What a scam.
I appreciate how you carefully disagreed with this man. I truly believe he believes in what he preaches, but I don’t necessarily agree.
Another great interview and making sure you got your point across about fat and the Ketogenic experience. Good challenge on the protein remarks. By the way your FOOD book you wrote is excellent and everyone on America well no everyone in the world needs to read it.
Jim Battaglia Which book are you talking about Jim. I think all his books are about food.
Thank you!
This guy needs to go to the bathroom. I don’t know how he’s getting paid but I hope he spends his money wisely.
Ddw1212@gmail.com Walton .. I agree completely I can’t listen to too much of this guy
Is that the same Ancel Keys who made us obese with his cholesterol myth? Discredited in the first few minutes.
I just couldn’t listen past about 12 minutes…..
Cathy Woofter Kathy it gets better as it goes deeper into the interview
“Wait for it, wait for it…”
The conversation takes a turn once they started talking about the myths of dietary fats & cholesterol and not his personal beliefs of vegetarian vs carnivore diets.
But wow, what a rough start. I figured Mark had some reason for uploading this conversation however it was difficult to see why for the first 40 minuets or so.
Love how you Dr. Hyman kept it on topic, friendly and curious.
Thanks!
What about carnitine and choline? not touched on at all ….?
The Minnesota Project (Ancel Keys’ experiment in human starvation) was actually a very carefully done experiment with some really interesting results, not nearly as cack-handed and dishonest as the Seven Countries survey.
At around the 41 minute mark, Heber claims that the corn oil industry was a by-product of the feed industry. He’s has everything completely backwards. The soy /corn crushing industries preceding using meal and starch feed industries by about 20 years. The real question was what to do with the by-products of the oil industries. The solution was to feed the left over soy meal to chickens, and the starches from corn kernels to cattle. One thing too with feedlot cattle, these animals spend the first 1/2 to 2/3 of their lives on grasses. Then when they get to the feedlots they are “back grounded” primarily on roughages (meaning green plants like leftover corn stalks) to transition the cattle to “concentrates” which are the starches from corn kernels and often includes DDG …distilled grains from ethanol production. So it’s during the last 4 to 5 weeks before being harvested that cattle are fed primarily corn starches (concentrates). This does change the 6 o 3 ratios for the worse. Though cattle really don’t have much of either.
All those isolated plant proteins are hyper-processed more often than not from plants from industrial farms. Some of the processing methods to “defat”, “dephytate” and remove fiber are pretty bad. Some aren’t as bad. So you really have to know how the proteins are isolated. More often than not the people selling such protein isolates can’t tell you how the proteins are isolated, where or how the sourced plants are grown, or what the exact amino acid compositions of the proteins are. So a lot of these plant proteins are very bad for your health and the environment . Here’s something I wrote on this subject: A Tale of Two Expos https://lachefnet.wordpress.com/2018/03/31/a-tale-of-two-expos/ Also kind of strange Herber was going on and on about Omega 6’s and doesn’t seem to realize that all those soy isolated proteins are very large sources for Omega 6’s.
Thanks Docs – We look at as – “Food is Chemical Information” for the body – Each molecule of food has the potential to be a building block, an antagonist, and directly interact with DNA, mitochondrial RNA, and all metabolic pathways.” … and as you know we are 1 Million Genes (DNA) and only 23,000 are human – 2%.
Humans are 1 Million Genes, 4.5 Trillion base pairs, and only 23,000 genes, 2% are human, or 3 Billion base pairs.
http://www.70GoingOn100.com the Centenarian Diet, or maybe 128, the Hayflick limit, … or if a Ray Kurzweil fan then this is a Moot Point …
I have to disagree with his opinion about eating combinations of plant proteins to achieve a protein balance in the diet. I’m not on board with his fat percentages either. I think I heard him approving highly processed protein supplements ( protein drinks ). I have to disagree with that too. I enjoyed his love of molecular nutrition, his enthusiasm and his sweet nerdy-ness about it. I’m nerdy about many things so I recognize the kindred spirit. I’m thinking he is stuck in his timeline, and hasn’t caught up the new information about ketogenics. Great interview!